In Search Of The Beal Family

Friday 1st August 2014

Marilyn Hill writes ~

I am hoping to find someone with old photos of the Beal family.

My family lived in the Devizes and Salisbury areas, and names I am searching are Joseph Beal and Annie Sharpe, who lived in Ludgershall and had children called Fred, Joseph and Arthur in the 1950s.

I am also looking for Arthur Beal and Gertrude Brown who lived in Pewsey, or William Beal who married Alice Law and had children called Joan, Violet and Eunice.

Any information would be  appreciated. Thank you. I can be contacted by email: mazzjoyhill@gmail.com

Mad Jack Benett Of Norton Bavant

Wednesday 21st May 2014

Brian Excell writes ~ 

Dear Danny, I’m enjoying your website on the lore of south west Wiltshire.

I was particularly interested in your story on ‘Mad Jack’ Bennett, who was indeed a memorable character in southern Wiltshire from about 1890 to his death in 1947.  His real name was John Montagu Fane Benett Stanford  (his surname was Benett with one ‘n’). I’m very interested in Jack as I’ve been writing a book about him and his family – the Benett-Stanfords; they are all quite an interesting bunch.

I have made contact with other people who know something about the Benett-Stanfords such as Jan Oliver, Rex Sawyer, Bernard Pike and Robert Moody, so I would be most interested to hear from you if you had any further anecdotes about Jack and/or Pythouse.

Your Jack at the Bishopstrow church was fascinating – a typical ‘Jack’ story.  I know that Bishopstrow had a particular interest to Jack in that his wife Evelyn came from there. However, a week before their scheduled wedding of June 23rd, 1893 her father Capt. Burchall Helme walked in front of a passenger train which went by his property thus killing himself.  The wedding understandably had to be postponed.

Thank you for any further information you can pass my way. 

Danny Howell replies ~ 

Hello Brian, Thank you for your email with regard “Mad Jack” Benett.

Very interested to hear you are writing a book about him and his family.

I have been told by more than person that a favourite thing for Mad Jack to do, was, when out in his car, was to stop and talk to people at the roadside who would marvel at his car. He would ask them if they would like to go for a ride in it, only to drive on quite a distance and then drop them off miles from where they started ~ the unfortunate people would then have to make their way back on foot!

Also of interest, and I guess you know this already, is correspondence from Jack in a local newspaper with regard the name of the village Norton Bavant and its owners; and “The House That Jack Built”, a cottage in Norton Bavant, but I guess if you’ve been researching you know about these things?

I have come across Captain Burchall Helme in my researches (there’s a memorial plaque to him in Bishopstrow Church). I believe I’m right in saying he was crossing the railway line between Bishopstrow and Middleton, to go and watch some haymaking in progress, when he was struck by the train and accidentally killed.

Pleased to hear from you. Do keep in touch.

Death And Funeral Of William John Beaven

William John (Bill) Beaven. Passed away peacefully at Warminster Hospital on the 14th May 2014, aged 87 years. Will be greatly missed by his wife Betty, family and all his friends. Family flowers only, donations if desired to Friends of Warminster Hospital. Funeral service to take place Friday 23rd May 2014, West Wiltshire Crematorium at 4pm. c/o C S Bowyer, 3 St Thomas Road, Trowbridge, Wiltshire, BA14 8SF.

Sadly, Kitty Never Found The Dog’s Grave On The Downs Above Warminster But Her Son John Says He Would Like To Share The Cost Of A New Cross For It On Copheap

Friday 17th January 2014

Danny Howell writes ~ 

Most people who read this blog will know that two months ago I instigated a project to find and restore a dog’s grave on Copheap, Warminster. The grave was for many years a well-known landmark for local people, ever since some soldiers during the First World War constructed it after one of them accidentally shot the dog.

John Featherby, who has recently taken up residence in Warminster, has contacted me with a story concerning his mother and the dog’s grave and it is a story that has a little sadness attached to it. 

John writes ~ 

My mother’s maiden name was Catherine Baker. She was always known as Kitty. She was born in Scotland in 1919 and was sent to a convent school in Warminster while her father was working for Reuters away in St. Helena sometime in the 1930s. It was only just before she died six years ago my mother told me she had been in school in Warminster before the Second World War. I have no further information but I believe the school might have been St. Monica’s School at Vicarage Street. She told me of this only in 2006, by which time she had been widowed (twice) and moved from Kent to live in Andover, where I was working.

After I retired I moved in with her, to look after her because she had suffered a heart attack and needed help. I used to take her out for day trips in the car, asking her to tell me where she wanted to go. One day she told me about her schooldays in Warminster. She had, as far as far as I can recall, never mentioned it before. She could remember very little about Warminster but said she could never forget being taken with the other girls in a charabanc on to the downs above the town to visit the grave of a dog. This grave had become a local landmark and many people came to lay flowers there, but she could not remember the story behind it.

She never came back to the town until I brought her here a few days before she died. She had a lovely day here but we never found the grave. She was so disappointed not to identify the site but asked me to find out for her. I failed to find anything out although I did find a grave at Westdown Camp which clearly was not what she did remember. She died soon after visiting in Warminster, in January 2008.

I have recently moved to Warminster and was interested to read the article about your attempt to locate and restore the grave on Copheap. After reading the article I am convinced that the grave at Copheap is where my mother went as a child to lay flowers, just as you did.

You have my permission to pass on my mother’s story to your readers and supporters. I hope it jogs a few memories of local people. Perhaps you can even fill in a few gaps in my mother’s story. I don’t even have any dates for the time she was at school here but having just moved here myself I hope to have more time now to ferret out more information. She said she was very happy here.

I hope this information is helpful to someone who might remember those times. I would like to find out more about this myself and wonder if I can be of any help to you? I am certain that my mother would be delighted to know the grave might soon be recovered and restored. Do let me know if I can contribute in some way to your efforts, for example, sharing the cost of the new cross you propose – in memory of my mother.

Best wishes and good luck, John Featherby.

Danny Howell responds ~

Thank you John for letting us know about your mother’s search to find the dog’s grave again. I must admit I shed a little tear reading it. What a pity your mother passed away when she did before we put this project in motion. Thank you for offering to contribute towards the cross. It is very kind of you and I think your offer of doing so in memory of your mother is a lovely idea. I hope your mother’s story will prompt others not only to relate their memories about the dog’s grave on Copheap but also help you fill those gaps in your mother’s story. I believe St. Monica’s School used to publish a year book with items contributed by the pupils as well as reports of school events and sports. Maybe we can trace one which mentions your mother? I hope so.

Virginia Says She Is”Chuffed”

Monday 18th November 2013

Danny Howell writes ~

Yesterday I posted some information and photographs for Virginia Denton in Victoria, BC, Canada, who was seeking details about her ancestors the Butler family of Warminster, particularly Ebenezer Butler. Virgina has contacted me again, not only to thank me (likewise thank you Virginia) but to share a bit more info about Ebenezer’s eight daughters and who they married.

Virginia has written ~

Hi again Danny,
I just have to say first off, that your reply is certainly the best one I’ve ever had in thirty years of searching my family history!!! I’m totally “chuffed” as they say in England . . . . thank you so much! I got started on this hobby after reading a diary written by my gt grandmother, Mary Charlotte Thompson, great grandaughter to John Thompson. She was obviously interested in genealogy and had gathered all the information she possibly could, by writing to all her known cousins . . . . with what MC wrote I have been able to round out who the eight sisters married . . . .

Ebenezer and Mary Baily married 1729. I have Ebenezer as a Clothier.
Rachel (1733-87) married John Thompson, 1753.
Mary married Robert Meares of Corsley, clothier.
Elizabeth 1734-80, married Henry Wilkinson of Whitby, Master Mariner.
Ann married Rev. George Wilfred Lee.
Sarah married William Newman of Brixton Deverill.
Susannah married William Hubbard in 1765.
Jane married Gregory Seale of Crockerton.
Hester Turner 1745- 1828, married 1st John Ingram and 2ndly Benjamin Rebbeck.
Hubbard and Rebbeck had something to do with Ashton Gifford – built the manor I believe.
I have found two descendants of John Rachel’s family of nine besides myself and we all are trying to find his parents and where he is from before Stepney, London, where he was a Ropemaker and shipowner.

Thank you again for your interest in my Butler family and for putting my story on your site, Virginia.

P.S. Your pictures are really good and much clearer than the ones we took on our visit there. Thank you.

Ebenezer Butler ~ A Descendant In Canada Has Contacted Danny Howell

Sunday 17th November 2013

Virginia Denton, who lives in Victoria, British Columbia, writes ~

Hello Danny . . .
“As early as 1704, an Ebenezer Butler of Warminster bought pews in the “new Meeting Place” and his house was in front of St. Lawrence Chapel there. On retiring from business, Ebenezer Butler built a villa at Crockerton, adjoining the chapel there. He is said to have been of a mild disposition and to have died about 1775. But his “tomb” near the little door of the church had already disappeared in 1883 when H.M.Gunn’s scarce little book “History of Nonconformity in Warminster” was published and I know of no record of Ebenezer’s death! According to Gunn, Ebenezer’s wife, Mary Bayly, died in 1781, aged 78 and Ebenezer had by her, eight daughters. These are my ancestors . . .  they had eight daughters . . . Rachel the oldest, married Capt. John Thompson in 1753 at St Deny’s Church, Warminster, and both are buried there, under a big Yew tree near the front door. I wonder if you have ever come across this family??? Thank you in advance for any reply.

Danny Howell replies ~

Thank you Virginia for your email about your ancestor Ebenezer Butler. I am familiar with the role of the Butler family and the big part they played in the Non-conformist movement in Warminster, hence the numerous mentions of Ebenezer and his family in the book you mention. I have a first-edition copy of Henry Mayo Gunn’s book The History Of Nonconformity In Warminster (1853). Because of the wealth of information it contains I republished it in March 2003 (but this too is now out of print). 

It is perhaps not surprising that H.M. Gunn could not find “the tomb [of Ebenezer Butler] near the door of the little church [Crockerton Baptist Chapel]” saying it had disappeared by 1883, and that’s because Ebenezer is not buried there, nor in the little graveyard just a little way behind Crockerton Baptist Chapel. It could be that Gunn was referring to a plaque to Ebenezer Butler near the chapel door ~ a plaque that recorded Ebenezer’s involvement with that chapel or the Baptist cause. 

Ebenezer Butler is buried at the churchyard of the Parish of St. Deny’s, The Minster, Warminster. The Burial Register for St. Denys records Ebenezer’s burial there on 10th November 1774. But whoever made the entry in the register spelt Ebenezer’s surname as Buckler (another well-known Warminster family).

Ebenezer Butler’s burial place is near the front door of St. Denys’ Church, beneath one of the table top tombs under the ancient yew tree. Ebenezer’s daughter Rachel is buried in the same grave (the grave you mention in your email to me). The wording on the top of the tomb is readable for the first 12 lines. It reads: 

“In memory of EBENEZAR BUTLER
who departed this life
Nov ye 6th 1774 aged 67 years.
Alfo RACHEL THOMPSON
daughter of the above
and wife of 
JOHN THOMPSON of LONDON
who departed this life
July ye 4th 1787 aged 54 years.
Alfo JOHN THOMPSON
Obt. 30 May 1800 aged 78.
Alfo . . . .”

The final six lines of the tomb top are no longer readable, but could possibly be to Ebenezar Butler’s widow. 

There are some more lines on the eastern side of the tomb, which read:

Also to the memory of
JANE TURNER WELSFORD
the beloved wife of
GEORGE WELSFORD late of Weymouth
who left Hell for Heaven
the 6th October 1838
the righteous shall be in
everlasting remembrance

The last line is from the King James Bible, Psalms 112:6

I think I am right in saying that inside the Baptist Chapel at Banks Buildings, Melcombe Regis, Dorset, on the south wall is a white marble tablet commemorating Frances (died 1833) and Jane Turner (died 1838) “wives of George Welsford”.

Interestingly, I think I am also correct in saying that also on the south wall of Melcombe Regis Baptist Chapel is a monument to a Thomas Butler who died in 1838.

The Melcombe Regis Baptist Chapel opened in 1814.

But I digress, so back to Warminster, and to Ebenezer Butler (or maybe we should write Ebenezar Butler) who died on 6th November 1774. 

There was a series of articles published in the Warminster Herald newspaper in 1882 and 1883, called ‘Rambles In And Around Warminster’. In these articles, someone, anonymously recorded many of the inscriptions on tombs and memorials in churches and on tombs and gravestones in churchyards, in Warminster and the surrounding villages, adding biographical details of deceased persons if known. The first article concerned the Parish Church of St. Denys, Warminster, but the writer was at a loss to say anything of note about the Butler tomb I have just referred to above. The writer of ‘Rambles’, in reference to the tombs under the yew tree at St. Denys’, included this: “No satisfactory information can be obtained as to who were Ebenezar Butler, and his daughter Rachel Thompson, whose monument is situated near here. Ebenezar Butler died in 1774.”

We do of course know that Ebenezar Butler was a grocer and we know, thanks to Gunn’s book, about Ebenezar’s role with the non-conformist movement in Warminster and Crockerton. I have an inkling that Ebenezar’s father was a John Butler. At least, Virginia, these notes from me to you, will put paid to you not knowing any record of Ebenezar’s death.

Below are some photographs I took yesterday (Saturday 16th November 2013), which I hope will add something pictorial to your Butler family tree ~

Crockerton Baptist Chapel (now no longer used):

 Below: The villa adjoining Crockerton Baptist Chapel:

Below, some photographs of the table top tomb of Ebenezar Butler (and other members of his family) under the yew tree near the front door of St. Deny’s Church, The Minster, Warminster:

Next, some photos of the inscription
on the top of the tomb:

 ~

Next, the inscription on the eastern side of the tomb:

And finally, a couple of photos showing
the yew tree outside the front porch
of St. Deny’s Church:

Death And Funeral Of Jacqueline Brooks

Jacqueline Brooks, of The Maltings, Warminster. Passed away peacefully on 3rd January 2013 at R.U.H. Bath, aged 72. Funeral service at Holy Trinity Church, Frome, on Thursday 17th January 2013, at 11.00am. Family flowers only, donations if desired to the Forever Friends Appeal R.U.H. c/o F Curtis and Son, 11 Portway, Warminster, Wilts, BA12 9QG.