Criticism Of The People Running Warminster Dewey Museum

Wednesday 18th December 2024

On the Facebook page Warminster And District Memories, in reply to a question from David Pollard about the existence of gas lamps in Warminster in the days before electricity came into use for street lighting, Chris Warren has replied that he has a map showing the gas lamp locations and that he gave a copy to Warminster Dewey Museum. But Mr. Warren adds: “Given the people running it [the Dewey Museum] I doubt it [the map] still exists.” Mr. Warren seems to take a dim view of the work of the Honorary Curator and voluntary staff at Warminster Dewey Museum. We wonder why?

Warminster Museum And History Society ~ Programme Of Talks, May 2024 To December 2024

Wednesday 1st May 2024
Commonwealth War Graves Commission: Its Role And Work
Jon Wort.

Wednesday 5th June 2024
Warminster Buildings: Recent Investigations
Dorothy Treasure.

Wednesday 3rd July 2024
Making The Kingdom Of Wessex
David Dawson.

Wednesday 7th August 2024
Victoria County History: Wiltshire
James Holden.

Wednesday 4th September 2024
Warminster’s Public Clocks
David Pollard.

Wednesday 2nd October 2024
1,000 Years Of Warp & Weft: The Wiltshire Woollen Industry
David Birts.

Wednesday 6th November 2024
The Young Elizabeth I
Nicola Tallis.

Wednesday 4th December 2024
Christmas Miscellany.

All talks commence at 2.30 p.m. and are held at Warminster Library –
entrance via the Library’s rear door off the Library Car Park.
Admission: Members £1. Guests £3.

Warminster Museum And History Society Annual General Meeting 2023

Minutes of the AGM of the Warminster Museum And History Society, held at Warminster Library, on Wednesday 5th April 2023:

1
Chairman’s [Sidney Blackmore] welcome and introduction.
Thanks were given to the members and speakers for the previous year.

2
No apologies had been received.

3
The minutes of the last AGM were summarized for the meeting.
The minutes were agreed as accurate and approved by the meeting.

4
Curator’s Report [Eric Peddle].
It had been a quiet year with no school visits and only one overseas visitor.
Eric had been out once to give a talk to a group.
There were now three volunteers learning how the museum works.
Sidney Blackmore, David Wiltshire and Jane Pearce have been working on the displays and cabinets in the museum.

Following the Curator’s report, Sidney explained that Eric was in the office every morning, Monday to Friday, to give help and advice on the history of Warminster. Many thanks for his efforts.

5
Treasurer’s Report [Rodger Stocks]
A small loss of £81.94 was made in the financial year 2022/23. However, the Society’s finances are very healthy with assets of £15,500.
A new computer had been bought for the museum.
There were still copies of the millennium book on Warminster available to buy.
Subscription rates to remain at £10 per annum with £3 for visitors and £1 for members per talk, following agreement by the meeting.
The accounts were proposed, seconded and approved by the meeting.
The proposed subscription rate was also proposed, seconded and agreed by the meeting.

6
Election of Committee
The current members of the committee were willing to continue to stand:
Chairman – Sidney Blackmore.
Vice Chairman – David Wiltshire.
Hon. Treasurer – Rodger Stocks.
Hon. Secretary – Marguerite Mussell.
Hon. Curator – Eric Peddle.

Non-executive members:
Dorothy Treasure.
Celia Lane.
Jane Pearce.
Mary Ross-Gower has stepped down and will be replaced by Penny Bolton.

7
Future lectures and activities.
Speakers have been booked until December 2023.
There are a limited number of speakers on Warminster. If anyone would like to give a talk on Warminster please let Sidney know.
Visits – Please fill in a form if you are interested in attending any of the visits being proposed on the programme being put together.

8
Any other business.
A member from the floor thanked Sidney, on behalf of the Society, for arranging all the talks.

Minutes Of An Extra-Ordinary General Meeting Of Warminster History Society & Museum

Thursday 12th April 2018

Minutes Of An Extra-Ordinary General Meeting Of Warminster History Society & Museum, Held At Warminster Library On Monday 9th April 2018.

17 people, including the History Society’s current Committee members, attended this meeting. Helen Taylor wrote the following minutes ~

The purpose of this meeting was to decide whether or not the Museum & History Society has a future. Alwyn Hardy, Mary Ross-Gower, Rodger Stocks and Helen Taylor were all re- elected for this meeting.

The committee’s proposal was read to the meeting by Mary:

For various reasons we have been unable to prepare a full programme of talks for the coming twelve months. The proposal that the committee is putting forward for the coming year is for two summer evening meetings. One would be in May and one in June. They would be held on a Thursday evening and would start at 7.00 p.m. The advantage of this time is that visitors would be arriving while the Library is still open and will enter through the front door. Admission charge would be £2.

Warminster Museum and History Society is a charity and as such is expected to do more than arrange evening talks. Already this year, we have agreed to give talks to one of the local schools and to one of the town’s scout troops. This is an activity we regularly provide and will continue to do so. Wiltshire Council expect us to be part of the education efforts of our town and these are talks that we give without payment.

As a charity, the executive officers are held to account by the members of the Society, and these members, at an AGM, will approve or disapprove of how the Society has been run. This will continue to be necessary even if there are no monthly meetings. The members of the present committee believe that it is essential that the Society continues to promote and preserve a knowledge of Warminster’s history and heritage and we know that you, the present members of the Society, share this belief.

Our proposal is that a membership fee of £2 per annum be introduced. This contribution would indicate that people are in agreement with the aims of the Society even without the monthly meetings. The £2 membership fee would, it is hoped, encourage members to become more closely involved in Society and Museum business, and it would, of course, give them the right to vote at an AGM or EGM.

Should members wonder “what do I get for my money?’ it is proposed that they will have half price access to the two summer talks. They will also of course continue to have access to the small Museum Library. Should any of you here this evening not wish to remain a member under any changed circumstances that may be agreed this evening, you can request a refund of the £2 that you paid when you came in and your name will be erased from the record.

Comments from the floor ~

Members were invited to comment on this proposal or ask questions.

Mary was asked if she would consider giving a talk on the WWI Project.

David Pollard thought that the Society website was the key to encouraging more visitors and ultimately more members, as the internet is often the first tool that people use. He thought that there should be more pictures than currently appear on our website and that these images should be searchable. Mary agreed but explained that the Society’s volunteers are actively involved in the digitisation of material held by the Society, both documents and photographs. The three major surveys of the town in the 18th and 19th centuries have been digitised. David asked if these could be put on the website, but Eric explained that doing a satisfactory job is a huge project and involves building a database. David’s reply was that we should pay someone to do it for us, as we have the funds. Mary would prefer to digitise everything first.

Danny Howell thought that providing only two meetings a year would be a backward step. Mary reminded everyone that, despite numerous requests over the past year, no one could be found who was both willing and able to set up the room. It is not just a matter of putting out chairs and a projector. Whoever volunteers must be able to cope with any IT difficulties that may occur, often due to the speaker bringing their own equipment that sometimes doesn’t want to “talk’ to our projector.

Jill Russell offered to arrange an outing in the local area as an alternative to meeting in the Library. Mary thanked Jill and asked her to go ahead and organise. It will be in one of the villages close enough to be quickly reached by car and will take place during the better weather.

Eric was asked what the two summer talks will be about; one will be “Our Warminster’ and the other will be “Warminster Common’.

Jill asked that the original proposal for the next year be changed slightly to say that we will offer at least two meetings and possibly an outing. It would be good if we can offer something in more than just two months in twelve.

Mary then asked everyone present if they were happy for the Society to continue to exist and there was unanimous agreement.

_________

After discussions with the Library, the two meetings are fixed for the third Thursday of May and of June. It would suit the Library better if our meetings start at 7.30 as usual and that people arrive via the back door.
Thursday 17 May 2018 7.30 p.m.
Thursday 21 June 2018 7.30 p.m.

“No Hope For The Future Of The Warminster History Society”

Monday 9th April 2018

Danny Howell writes:

This evening I attended the AGM of Warminster History Society, held at Warminster Library. Seventeen people, including myself, were present. Mary Ross-Gower chaired the meeting. I have to say that the meeting was extraordinary and bizarre. The mood was gloomy. Mary Ross-Gower said the Warminster History Society would in future have only two meetings a year and the annual membership fee would be £2. I expressed my opinion that this would be a backward step. No one else seemed to care. Mary Ross-Gower said the Society had many difficulties, mentioning that they had no one who could do “internet things”. I offered to do their I.T. for them but the committee made no comment – I was ignored. The committee, who appeared to have no ideas and no passion for local history, were re-elected en-bloc by a very passive audience. The committee then voiced out loud their combined opinion that there was “No hope for the future of the Warminster History Society.”

Warminster In The 20th Century By Celia Lane And Pauline White ~ A Book “Full Of So Many Mistakes”

September 1999

Warminster In The 20th Century by Celia Lane and Pauline White, published by Warminster History Society. September 1999.

Review by Danny Howell (Warminster’s Resident Local Historian):

In 1995 the Warminster History Society decided to produce a book documenting the last 100 years in Warminster, as a way of celebrating the millenium and bringing Daniell’s History Of Warminster (1879) up to date. A commendable thought but oh, oh dear, what must have seemed a very good idea at the time has turned out to be very much like the Curate’s Egg – only good in parts. Indeed, Warminster In The Twentieth Century, by Celia Lane and Pauline White, could well be subtitled “A Catalogue Of Errors!”

To start with, people’s names are, all too often, given incorrectly. Diana Turner, of the Baby Shop in George Street, is “Diane” (page 377), Major John has had his surname pluralised to “Johns” (page 171), the Reverend J.J. Daniell is shortened to “Daniel” (page 309), Ernie Weeks, the Station Road cafe proprietor has become “Weekes”; George Mundy, the Manager of the Capital & Counties Bank, is referred to as “Munday” (page 331); and Mr. A.Bazley of Boreham Farm is mistakenly Bazeley (page 197). These are just six of the many mispelt first names and surnames that crop up in this book.

Place names suffer just as badly in the hands of Lane and White. The Teasels residential estate is, according to them, the “Teazles” (page 97), Hillbourne Close (as signposted at Copheap Lane) is recorded as “Hillborne” (page 184), and Oxendean has become “Oxendene” (page 233). Sadly, these are not the only examples.

Perhaps it’s being trivial to refer to this type of error, annoying as it is to the descendants and families of the people, or the residents of the places concerned, but if Lane and White can’t get these right, can they be relied on to be accurate with other things? Unfortunately they can’t.

In the section on the Police, we are told, on page 218, that “In 1882, Sergeant Enos Molden was shot dead by John Gurd at the entrance to Longleat and was buried at Christ Church.” What rubbish! Sergeant Molden was shot on 12th April 1892, and is buried at St Denys’ (The Minster) Churchyard, where his grave is marked by a memorial stone complete with an informative epitaph. How did Lane and White allow this double-gaff to get into print? Well, they acknowledge Paul Sample’s booklet The Oldest And The Best, The History Of The Wiltshire Constabulary 1839-1989, in their list of references. Paul Sample made the mistake and Lane and White simply copied it, thus compounding it. They obviously accepted their written sources at face-value and didn’t bother to check the information.

Lane and White have a lot of trouble with dates throughout their book. 1967 is given (on page 12) as the year Gateway opened, when it actually opened in 1964! We are told (on page 327) Mr O’Malley took over Everett’s grocery shop, at 4 Market Place, “around 1923/4.” Wrong again! Had our two historians done a little research they would have discovered that O’Malley acquired the business in November 1919. Strange too that Lane and White, who are members of the Warminster History give 1972 (on page 12) as the year the History Society was formed. Wrong yet again! The inaugural meeting was actually held in 1970. And so on. There really are far too many mistakes concerning dates in this book.

Worse still, there appears to be some distortion of the truth in places. For example, the list of Council Chairmen and Mayors (page 404) credits Peter Gough serving as Mayor for one term only (1988/89). He was, in fact, a Mayor on two occasions; an even more remarkable achievement when you consider how he overcame his disability. He died during his second term (1991/92), but this is not mentioned. Maybe the authors thought the circumstances of his death a bit too much for their readers and decided the best way of not having to mention this was to simply put he was mayor only once.

Similarly, in the section on doctors, we are not told of Dr Payne’s fall from grace (even though the reason for his resignation was a big talking-point in Warminster during the 1990s). There is, of course, a danger in recording the misdemeanours of people still alive, and Lane and White must have chose to shy away from such things. Unfortunately though, there is another danger arising from that – history is portrayed through “rose-coloured spectacles” and not really as it was.

The “unsavoury” aside, it has to be said another of the book’s downfalls is that most of the information in the book is very scant or patchy. No doubt the authors will say there wasn’t enough space to go into detail, but if that was the case perhaps it was foolish to try and chronicle 20th century Warminster in a single volume. The result is certainly a very incomplete account. Some subjects fare better than others but throughout, the lack of anything “concrete” all too often gives the wrong impression. For example, in the chapter on schools, in the section on New Close School (page151), we are told when the school opened in 1952 a Mr. H. Brodie was the head, and a few sentences further on, we are given some information by Mr. A. Folker, who was the head from 1979 to 1984. Readers could perhaps get the impression that Folker succeeded Brodie as headmaster. No mention of made of Harry Hicks who was the headmaster during the 1960s and was probably the best-loved and most well-known of all the New Close headmasters. New Close School can probably consider themselves lucky to have been given half a page in this book; Princecroft School, for example, were given no section of their own in this chapter. Why not? Were they accidentally left out or didn’t Celia Lane and Pauline White have anything worthwhile to say about Princecroft School?

The chapter on industry and employment is also similarly choosy on what is included and what is left out. Several pages are devoted to two of the town’s building firms (Culverhouse Bros. Ltd. and R. Butcher & Son) but other builders in Warminster (Gaisford, and Ponton, for example) are not given the same treatment – Ponton is not even mentioned in the book. About half a page is devoted to gloving, with Jefferies, Dents and Holman & Byfield’s being given all of 18 lines. Other glove makers in Warminster, for example, Osmond & Son, are not mentioned. Readers are told that Beswicks left the town in the 1980s but readers are given no information as to what Beswicks manufactured, or where they were, etc. And again, mistakes are made. We are told (on page 171) that the Warminster Timber Company closed in 1961 – it actually closed in 1962.

The section on shops in the town centre is a huge let-down. The uses of the premises and the various shopkeepers, through the years, is very hit and miss. And whole areas are left out completely – Three Horseshoes Walk, Chinn’s Court and the Cornmarket precincts are not included for investigation. Lane and White, in some instances, have failed to take into consideration changes in the numbering of premises (Market Place numbers have been altered at least three times), consequently the authors get themselves into a muddle more than once.

There are other strange anomalies throughout the book too. References to “now” in the text depend on the moment when the various bits of information were gathered during what must have been the five years it has taken Celia Lane and Pauline White to compile the contents of the book. “Now” can be 1995, 1996, 1997, 1998 or 1999. What a pity, the “now” references couldn’t have been ironed out during the final edit, that’s if there was one. Annoying as all this is, it is, however, the amount of the mistakes in the book that really let readers (and more importantly researchers) down.

You really have to ask yourself how a book of local history, by two leading members of the Warminster History Society, came to be full of so many mistakes – well in excess of 150 in fact. We know they simply copied errors from other books, but was this the only reason? Could one of the factors be that neither of these women are “Warminster folk”, but only came here to live “fairly recently,” and, in consequence, couldn’t have been sure if what they were putting into print was accurate or not?

Celia Lane and Pauline White would have been well advised to have let someone with a knowlege of Warminster’s past read their manuscript before they went to press. Perhaps then a lot of the mistakes could have been picked up on and corrected. The President of the Warminster History Society, Jack Field, has recently been regaled as “having an encyclopaedic knowledge of Warminster’s past,” but one wonders whether he was shown Lane’s and White’s efforts, otherwise how did all their gaffs make it to the final script. Who, if anyone, was responsible for editing this book? The services of an editor would not only have eliminated the errors but also prevented the patchiness of the contents from being unleashed on the public. Warminster In The 20th Century suffers badly because of this.

On a pedantic note, the purists will tell you that the 20th century didn’t end until 31st December 2000, but the History Society chose to “jump the gun” and publish in the autumn in 1999, which meant they had to complete their half-cock effort 18 months before the century had expired. Consequently, any of the great events which happened in Warminster, rounding off the century, were not included; for instance, the re-opening of the Athenaeum, and the big fire in the Market Place. What a pity they couldn’t have used the opportunity to well and truly bring the history of Warminster up to date – something they aspired to in the first sentence of their acknowledgements at the start of the book. It would have been really inspiring if they had concluded their book with, say, a chapter, on how they saw Warminster at the end of the 20th Century. Now that would have been a piece of local history.

At nearly £20 a time the book is rather an expensive price for, as we have noted, a catalogue of errors. Luckily this reviewer didn’t buy a copy but was able to loan one from someone who was given it for Christmas. We’ll leave the last part of this review to them. They said “I’d like to throw it in the waste bin but I can’t because my wife gave it to me for Christmas and I dare not upset her. I won’t be reading it though. Even the information I gave Celia Lane has been written up wrongly in the book. I’ve disassociated myself entirely from it.”

Celia Lane and Pauline White have shown that local history is definitely not safe in their hands. Give their book a miss. What ever you do, don’t rely it on it for accurate reference. It will surely go down in history as one of the most erroneous local history books published in recent times.

Around Quebec Barn And Knook Castle ~ “Where It Was At In Roman Times”

Monday 26th September 1994

Danny Howell writes ~

Where It Was At In Roman Times

In quest of Roman times, Quebec Farm, north of Ansty Hill, on the road between Heytesbury and Chitterne, was the destination for an afternoon trip by 15 members of the Warminster History Society.

They were in pursuit of Andrew Houghton, the Society’s Honorary Secretary and a teacher at Kingdown School, who is particularly interested in Roman archaeology.

Around Quebec Barn, near the earthwork known as Knook Castle, are banks, ditches, circular platforms, lynchets and the edges of fields which date from the late Bronze Age (the time when Stonehenge was falling into disuse).

Andrew pointed out the sites of two Romano-British settlements, each with its own village street running north to south. People once lived either side of these streets, hence the discovery by William Cunnington and Richard Colt Hoare in the early 1800s of coal, a latchlifter, plaster, and pottery from France.

Strips of nettles in the ditches reveal signs of human activity from hundreds of years ago.

Around the settlements can be seen the remains of field systems. Ridges denoting the edges of early fields and lynchets where ploughing has created steps were visible from different angles.

The edges of the old fields are prominent features at regular intervals in a shelter belt of beech trees straddling the downs. These field edges can also be seen where they cross the track which runs from Quebec to Breakheart Hill.

Several circular flat areas, dug into the slope of the downs, measuring twenty to thirty feet across, are the remains of hut bases. These huts would have been made of timber, mud and plaster. The people who lived in them, between 200 A.D. and 350 A.D. kept cattle and grew grain.

The bleakness of the area and the cold weather made for difficult living conditions. So, why did people live here? It certainly wasn’t for safety, because the country was at peace during the time of the Roman occupation.

There are three possible answers:

1. A large population generally meant that every piece of land, even bleak downland, had to be used.

2. The Roman Government ran the plain as a cattle ranch (there are no stone buildings used by the Romans on the plain; the nearest were at Pitmeads).

3. The tribe who lived here were so nasty to the Romans they were subject to extra taxation, and had to eke out a living by scrabbling in a marginal area.

It really is a case of ‘we don’t know.’ 

Andrew offered another suggestion. Perhaps the area was only used for summer habitation. “This is where it was at for the ordinary person in Britain,” said Andrew. “Their lives are not recorded. These humps and bumps in the landscape and strips of nettles are the visible reminders of their existence. This is far more important to me, the lives of ordinary people, than those of the more noble who lived at Chedworth and other Roman villas.”

A unanimous vote of thanks for an interesting afternoon jaunt was given to Andrew. Next month, in the comfort of the Dewey Museum, Martyn Whittock will give a lecture about King Arthur.

Warminster History Society’s Grand Fete At Eastleigh Court, Bishopstrow

Advertisement for Warminster History
Society’s Grand Fete in the gardens and
grounds of Eastleigh Court, Bishopstrow,
on Saturday 10th September 1994.
2.00 p.m. to 5.30 p.m.

To be opened by Juliana Pobjoy.

Crafts, Refreshments, Tombolas,
Warminster Brass Band,
Conjuror Chris Anderson.
Baby Show and Fancy Dress Competition.
Jacob Sheep, Spinning, Lace.

Four Wheel Drive Vehicles. Pony Rides.
Bouncy Castle. Cake Stall. Swingboats.
Barfly Jumping. Human Gyroscope.
Warminster Rock ‘n’ Roll Club.
The Tae Kwon-Do Club.

Heytesbury Red Barrows.
Salisbury Model Car Club.

Dolphins Dance And Fitness Studio.

Produce Display by
Tynings Allotments Association.

Silent Auction of items donated
by famous celebrities.

Fun for all the family.

Admission by Lucky Prize Draw Programme 20p.

Warminster Dewey Museum Shop

December 1993

The weeks before Christmas 1993 at the Dewey Museum shop inside Warminster Library were very rewarding. Over £600 of goods were sold during December, bringing the total sales to date to £1,701 (since 1 March). The Warminster History Society will make good use of the money, funding projects at the Museum.

Thanks go to everyone who gave freely of their time to run the shop, particularly Margaret Durham, Jack Field, Alwyn Hardy, Glenn Head, Terry Hibbs, Danny Howell, Celia Lane, Joyce Pearce, Ruth Smith, Eleanor Treasure, Joy West and Hazel Yate.

The shop was the idea of Danny Howell, and the cabinet for displaying the sale goods was built by Danny’s father, Ben Howell.

Thanks are also given to everyone who supported the shop with their purchases.

Warminster History Society Programme Secretary Resigns

December 1993

Danny Howell writes:

The Warminster History Society’s programme secretary Kim Phelps has tendered her resignation from the Committee owing to personal commitments.

The Society hopes to elect a new programme secretary at the AGM on 7 March 1994.

Rest assured though, Kim has arranged an interesting and varied programme for the year ending February 1995.

We offer our thanks to Kim and wish her well with her future plans.